Jedi Prophecy Theory

I'm pretty sure this has been posted and talked about but I would like to put in my 2 cents.

In PM, the 'Prophecy' is revealed that a jedi born from Mediclorians (sp) will bring a balance to the force. Now, we all are assuming that Anakin/Vader is that Jedi based on Episodes I and II.

But...I was thinking that perhaps this 'Prophecy' is actually a bad omen. From what we all know, there are scores of 'good' Jedi (from what we saw in Episode II) with new 'trainies' all the time.

However, we know there are only two 'Evil' Sith, A master and an apprentice. This would put the balance of good vs evil swaying heavily on the good side.

Now, based on this, wouldn't someone who is suppose to 'Bring a balance to the force' actually be evil? Also the only Jedi/Sith at the beginning of ANH are Vader(Anakin), The Emperer, Obewon and Yoda. Two Jedi, 2 Sith.

I would appreciate any comments on this theory

Jack Ramius

I think this is pretty much what the prophecy means. The imbalance is certainly the Jedi's oppression of the Sith and repression of the Dark Side. However, I don't think the ultimate balance has to be parity between Jedi and Sith. After all, by the end of RotJ, there are *no* Sith left, as such. The balance required is not between Force users, but in the Force itself.

Consider how Luke finally defeats Vader. He gets angry. Moreover, he's angry because of his personal attachment to a family member. This would be anathema to the old Jedi, but it's what gives him his strength. I believe Luke actually draws a bit on the Dark Side in RotJ, giving expression to the Force as a whole. Just as importantly, he uses the Dark Side without being seduced by it.

It could be said that the Jedi of the old Republic were seduced by the Light Side of the Force, losing touch with their own unsettling emotions such as fear, anger, and even personal attachment. It's possible that this is *why* they oppressed the Sith for so long; the imbalance was the cause, not the effect. Anakin/Vader brings balance to the Force by re-asserting all of the things the Jedi have denied, tilting things slightly to the Dark Side for a generation or so, but ultimately evening things out in RotJ so that his son can form a new, balanced Jedi order.

I'm sorry, but I have to interject here. Someone will be born from the Force, not Mediclorians. The mediclorians are like symptoms to a cold, but they do not cause the cold. I've always thought of them as symbiotes. (But then again, all those SW novels sorta fry your brain when it comes to the movies)

In AOTC, Yoda mentions that the Jedi's abilities to use the Force has diminished and that the 'dark side clouds everything.' Basically, all those thousands of years of Jedi were coming to an end. Even though there are only two Sith at any one given time, their devious and manipulative ways build up over several hundred years. The Jedi could no longer keep the republic healthy and the dark side's influence was about to 'overcome' the light side. You can see from ANH that indeed, the light side was waning and nearly extinct except for a few old hermits (Yoda and Obi-wan). Without Anakin, nothing could have stopped Darth Sidious (i.e. the dark side). But once he was destroyed Luke was able to start up the Jedi Academy and bring balance back to the Force. There was no longer a devious plot hatched by users of the dark side to corrupt and terrorize the galaxy.

Your theory sounds hauntingly similiar to the Roman Catholic Priests...they can not give in to 'sins', because of their faith...but lately, it seems that many Sith Priests are making theirselves known...

Yes, but that is alright.

George have stated that Anakin was the Chosen One. Star Wars is, as will be evident (to those who hasn't figured it out yet) when episode III has been released, the story of the rise, the fall and the eventual redemption of Anakin Skywalker.

The prophecy isn't bad itself, it's just a prophecy. The fulfillment of this prophecy, however, took some pretty dark times, so it wasn't all good. In the end, however, with the Sith destroyed balance of the force was restored.

First of all, this isn't a new theory, several people have posted similar thoughts, including myself. I did not know something then that I know now. The balance of the Force isn't as much a balance between two sides of the Force as it is an inner balance of the force itself. To get that inner balance, or peace, you have to remove the part that is disrupting it, i.e the dark side.

I do not think prophecy is about bring good and evil to an equal power leave. Lucas has given out a few clues as to what this really means. The only one posted on the net that I know of is this;
http://perso.club-internet.fr/willow/E1_009_001.html

Maybe some info on this subjectneeds to be added to the FAQ.

I think the problem is Lucas never really went into the details of this 'prophecy'. It's almost like its just a cheap plot device like the midichlorians.

I mean, what does 'Bring the Force back into balance' mean? How did it get out of balance? What are the ramifications of an out-of-balance Force? What are the two sides to be balanced? Most stories that have a prophecy in them center on that prophecy. In Star Wars, the prophecy seems to be an afterthought.

Personally, I don't think the balance is between good and evil. If that were the case, why would the Jedi want a Force that's in balance. That just means more evil then they have now.

I think the two sides of the force are the 'Living' Force and the 'Structural' Force (for lack of a better term). Look at Qui-Gon from E1. He was very in tune with the living force. He cared more for people and creatures than rules. The Jedi Council seemed more concerned with rules and regulations.

It's kind of like faith. The Pharisees and were concerned with the 'structure' and rules of the law. Now these are necessary in an orderly society, but they had forgotten that God cares more for people, and it was for the people's sake that laws were given, not laws for the sake of law. When Jesus came, he was accepted by people because He accepted them. Whenever he 'broke' a Mosaic law or Jewish tradition and was attacked, He reminded them that people were more important. I think Qui-Gon, like Jesus, was more concerned with people, the 'living' aspect of the Force.

Remember how Obi-Wan was distainful about picking up Jar-Jar and Anakin ('Why do I feel we've picked up another pathetic life-form.'? He was all about the mission, the 'Structural' Force (somebody please give me a better name). Obi-Wan reminded him and the council he needed to learn more about the 'Living' Force, or having compassion for people and being attuned to their needs.

I'm interested to hear anyone else's thoughts on this theory.

Michael (Rogue7)

Prophecies are seldom understood before they are fullfilled. I think thatis the way it's ment to be.

You might be on to something here. The Jedi do seem to have charactistics of the Pharisees. However, if that were turn, then it's not the Force that is out balance; but, rather the Jedi who are out of balance because their priorities out of wack.

There are some clues to what all this means here;
http://perso.club-internet.fr/willow/E1_009_001.html

Does anyone else have anylinks to comments from GL or princable cast member on this subject? All we are doing here is spitting in the wind. Let's look for some facts.

As I said, balance of the force has nothing to do with a traditional balance, scuh as a balance of numbers, it is more a state of peace within the force itself. The dark side disrupted that peace, which George stpuidly decided to call balance. And as George himself have pointed out that Anakin was the Chosen One and that he by killing Palpatine (and himself in the process) brought balance your theory can't possibly work.

Hmm, well, that's only because the first people who used the dark side, and thus caused the unbalance, was a few Jedi that didn't share the philosophy with the rest of the Jedi. The Sith order started from those dissidents. I do understand the concept of balance, but George apparently doesn't. I don't like that he used balance as opposed to something far more fitting. Order would do better, but that has too much of a negative taste. I suppose balance sounded cooler and more mysterious. Bringing balance to the force is simply bringing back the order to the force the way it was before the dark side was first tapped.