Force concept

Hi, The force to me is power which controls all things in the universe and balances the dark and light side, so everything happens for a reason. This is kind of confirmed with Hans saying something like (cant remember exact quote but I believe this sums it)'I dont believe in a force controlling my destiny, I make my own destiny' when Luke is training in the ship. Now if Anakin is the chosen one who will bring balance to the force, then he will bring balance to the force no matter what. Even if Qui-Gon never found Anacin which leads him to become a Jedi, he still would have bought balance. So why is Yoda and the rest of the council so against taking him in when they confirm he is 'the chosen one', surly they know he will bring balance weather they like it or not and its better they keep an eye on him. In the OT why are Obi and Yoda concerned about bringing Vader down(cause they discuss that there is another who can stop Vader) when they know it will happen one way or an other. It does happen by Luke. In my thought all that evil empire happens because it was supposed to happen(as part of bringing balance). Now maybe then 'normal' people in the galaxy did not know this including Luke but surly Yoda, Obi and the rest of the council did. They should of just kcked back and enjoyed the ride. What do you guys think, am I way off(I am a newbie so probably yes)

Well that would apply had they confirmed he was in fact 'the chosen one'. Only Qui-Gon seemed to strongly believe it. Mace Windu seems to be open to the possiblity but he always uses 'if' when referring to Anakin as 'the chosen one'. All Yoda knows for certain is what he feels from Anakin and what he feels is fear and and uncertainty.

balance.

It was destiny that Qui Gon find him, and that he would not have brought balance to the force even if Qui Gon didn't find him, because Qui Gon finding him was a part of his destiny.

Nobody confirmed that he was the chosen one.

It's not about that. Ben Says in ANH something along the lines that you can control the force, but it controls you also...It's like a destiny, a person only has one destiny, which is determined by the actions they take...If they were SURE Anakin was the chosen one they probably might as well give up and not fight it, but since they were not sure, they probably felt that they could stop him from reaching that hypothetical destiny.

You can't kick back and enjoy the ride...Nobody in Star ars has any clear knowledge of what anyone destiny truely is, Anakin didn't know, Yoda didn't, Luke didn't, ObiWan didn't, and even the Emperor didn't know what would happen. Nobody just goes along for the ride, everyone takes part. We MAKE our own destiny, but we all do have an ultimate destiny. Destiny is just a destination in time, and to deny having a destination in time is illogical. Nobody could ever see another person destiny 'for certain' not even somebody like Yoda, and the mention of ones destiny to the person would changet hier destiny even further. Every action a person takes changes the whole worlds destiny like dominos... I think you have the concept of destiny sscrewed up, destiny is not something you can not control...In fact, the very reason it's your destiny is because you control it.

Yes actually I think you are way off. Heres why; The force doesn't control all things. It controls nothing. It is merely an energy force which FLOWS through all things. Those who can manipulate it are the Jedi, and their opponents obviously. What determines whether someone who uses the force is good or bad is how they manipulate the force. Be it for their own goals (as the Sith) or for the good of all (as the Jedi)

Noone really knows yet what the whole 'Bring balance to the force' means exactly though there are many ideas. The fact that Ani is brought in at the late age of 10, merely means that Jedi usually begin their training at a much earlier age. Tatooine was not part of the republic and may never have been noticed, Qui-Gon, and the rest ended up there by accident, and found Anakin quite by accident. The only thing that clued Qui-Gon in to ANakin's force ability was the fact that he was the only human with reflexes good enough the compete in the podraces.

No I don't think Obi-Wan and Yoda should have just kicked back and enjoyed the ride, and not helped Luke in any way because , as the saying goes, 'All that is required for Evil to succeed, is for Good men to do nothing.' They had years already invested in Luke, but losing him would not have ended it all, yes they could have used Leia, but they would have to start all over again and with more difficulty, as Leia is older and would have been even MORE difficult to train.

Actually, when Luke asks Obi-Wan if the Force controls your actions, Obi replies 'Yes, but it also obeys your commands.' So the Force *does* control your actions. This is backed up by the way Qui-Gon talks about the 'will' of the Force in TPM - 'finding him was the will of the Force'. It seems like the Force can only control those who are receptive to it, by giving them subconscious 'nudges' in the right direction (eg directing Qui-Gon to Watto's Junkyard).