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AdrianusV
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Very contradictory story lines in AOTC Three questions that have me pulling out my hair.
1)Was Padame for or against the damn republic Army?!?! This went back and forth for the first half of the movie
2) Why did Dooku tell Obi about a sith controlling the senate, and implore him to help rid the senate of this sith control, only to be serving Sidious less than 30 minutes later? What if Obi had said 'yeah, lets go kick his ass' What would Dooku have said then.
3) Who the hell hired the bounty hunter for the clone army? Jango said it was Tyranus (Dooku)?
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mesaba
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Umm no they're not
She's never shown to be FOR the army. The Whole time she's against it. Where do you get that she's for it?
There were 3 possible events that would happen after telling Obi-Wan this: 1. Obi-Wan says 'Sure let's go'. And Obi-Wan and Dooku beat Sidious (or one is destroyed and the other becomes/remains Sidious' #2. 2. Obi-Wan belives him, but refuses, he tells the counsel which in turn will do one of 2 things a. Belive it, and start working against the senate, making them look bad b. Not believe it and be blindsided. 3. Obi-Wan DOESN'T believe him, doesn't tell anyone, and they Jedi are blind sided.
So it was probably Dooku/Tyranus who Hired Jango, and used Syfo-Dias when dealing with the Kamino to lay the blame on the Jedi.
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Nunikares
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Against the army.
This was one of the few pieces of attempted cleverness I think worked in the movie - half the truth often shields the truth far far better than a lie does.
I'd assume the Kaminoans chose Jango - at least that was what was inferred by the way they talked about it...
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Roger E. Moore
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No, I think they said they'd have preferred to use a Jedi, but that Sifo-Dyas wanted to use Jango Fett (recruited by Tyranus)
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Elder
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Not for the army, but opposed to the sepratists. She didn't seem to support drastic action, but was clearly opposed to the Sepratists. It was that later view that Jar Jar thought he was supporting when the suggestion was made to call for the emergency powers.
There are always two Sith - a master and an apprentice. The master appears to be the stronger of the two, so the apprentice needs help. Dooku's offer was a mirror of Vader asking Luke to help him overthrow the Emperor in the second movie of the first trilogy. The idea would be for the apprentice to finally gain the power of being master, and the person he recruited being his apprentice.
Count Dooku, using the name of a recently deceased Jedi, put in the order. He then recruited Jango and sent him in for the cloning.
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lafah
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Go ahead 'Darth Scooter', make my day...
They never discussed the selection process. Obi-Wan assumed that Sifo-Dyas had chosen Jango because he was told that the Jedi Master had ordered the army. When he asked Jango about it he replied that he'd never heard of Sifo-Dyas but was recruited by a man named Tyranus, who we later learn is actually Count Dooku.
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bibipandi
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felt compelled by mysterious forces to say:
i think she was against it, but after being offered up as a snack for that rat-thing, i'm sure she was glad to see the army show up!
as Yoda later says, the Sith use deception to create mistrust. Dooku was just trying to turn Obi-Wan to the Dark Side. if Obi-Wan had joined him, it would have given him ample opportunity to effect such a turn.
apparently, it was Dooku (Lord Tyrannus) and Sidious. Sidious did say that everything was going as they had planned. hopefully, Ep III will clarify this.
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